[Tfug] advice

Joshua Zeidner jjzeidner at gmail.com
Tue Jun 30 13:26:24 MST 2009


On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 1:09 PM, cara<pinkgranite at gmail.com> wrote:
> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:32 PM, Joshua Zeidner <jjzeidner at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>
>> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:18 PM, cara<pinkgranite at gmail.com> wrote:
>> > On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 12:07 PM, Matt Jacob <matt at mattjacob.com> wrote:
>> >>
>> >> On Tue, Jun 30, 2009 at 09:48, cara<pinkgranite at gmail.com> wrote:
>> >> > I had 4 friends tell me that working for HealthTrio was a nightmare.
>> >> > I
>> >> > think
>> >> > one guy even got cheated out of a months pay. TekWork tried to place
>> >> > me
>> >> > there! They totally think HealthTrio is the bees knees of clients.
>> >> > Turn
>> >> > 180
>> >> > degrees and run for your life!
>> >>
>> >> Who said anything about HealthTrio?
>> >
>> > The post is about TekWork! Also, before trying to place me with the
>> > company,
>> > they claimed that the development team was very stable. If it's so
>> > stable,
>> > why do I know 4 people in town who walked?
>>
>>  If they are emphasizing that chances are it is anything but.
>> Another good way to size up an opportunity is to figure out /why/
>> you're being hired.  Are you replacing someone?  Is there an existing
>> code base?
>
> Defense contractors often just have money to burn. A large percentage of the
> staff does very little during the work day.
>
>>
>> What happened to the person who wrote it?
>
> At my last place of employment, they are still there, obfuscating code and
> trying to buff a turd into an enterprise system (immensely painful) .
>
>>
>>  (btw it is FAR
>> more economical for the creator of code to be the supporter of code,
>> if the situation is something other than this there is usually a
>> hidden reason).  Being an expert code kludger has very little job
>> security, no prestige, and high stress.
>
> Actually, if you have a security clearance, the pay is excellent.
>
>>
>>  I estimate someone can keep
>> up work like that for about 5 years at the most.
>
> I made it 4 years.
>>
>> Has the company
>> expanded?  contracted? are you in an expanding or contracting sector?
>> Will you be building out new features?
>>
>>  These things are very important to consider when assessing a job.  I
>> find it amazing how little work people put into the job assessment
>> process as compared with the amount of effort they put in working a
>> position.  -jmz
>>
>> > They lie. Be careful using TekWork.
>> >
>> >>
>> >> M
>> >>
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