[Tfug] warchalking

[Nicolas Lopez]

On Fri, Jun 28, 2002 at 07:32:20AM -0700, Tyler Kilian wrote:
> Bowie:
> 
> We've had our ups and downs, but let me say, for what it's worth...you hit 
> the nail right on the head with this one.  In fact, you used a nailgun.
> 
> A few things, that I know specifically:
> 
> 1) There are laws governing the use of home-made antennaes
  And there are laws governing how long you can spend in the bathroom at
Sizler before they send to cops in to pull you out. Just because there are
laws it doesn't mean they say anything meaningful.

> 2) The expectation of privacy exists with most wireless devices of this 
> type.
  The expectation of safety exists with idiot leaving their cars unlocked
just because they think they live in a "good" neighborhood too. Neither have
much of a connection to reality. 

> 3) Attempting to procure a lease *is* accessing a network without 
> authorization.
  No, attempting to procure a lease, by definition, is ASKING for
authorization to access the network. DHCP OFFER is analogous to you
welcoming a hobo knocking at your door in for dinner.

> 4) If you try and crack WEP, this is circumventing security further and has
>    all sorts of other "hacking" and encryption laws behind it.
  Well duh, that's why nobody mentioned cracking WEP. 

> A bad anology to this is scanning.  There is nothing illegal about 
> listening to
> radio transmissions.  If you try and join in--then it's a crime.
  There's nothing illigal about going door-to-door looking for charity
either.

> Now, nobody is going to go to the pen for 20 years for driving around and 
> being a wanker, but if you did it to the wrong company or person, they 
> could indeed make your life a bit more complicated than you had anticipated.
  That is the case regardless of any laws or "moral" positions.

  ..I know, I know. Don't feed the trolls....

  - Nick Lopez
    kimo_sabe@atdot.org
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