[Tfug] warchalking

Tyler Kilian tfug@tfug.org
Fri Jun 28 07:31:01 2002


Bowie:

We've had our ups and downs, but let me say, for what it's worth...you hit 
the nail right on the head with this one.  In fact, you used a nailgun.

A few things, that I know specifically:

1) There are laws governing the use of home-made antennaes
2) The expectation of privacy exists with most wireless devices of this type.
3) Attempting to procure a lease *is* accessing a network without 
authorization.
4) If you try and crack WEP, this is circumventing security further and has
    all sorts of other "hacking" and encryption laws behind it.


A bad anology to this is scanning.  There is nothing illegal about listening to
radio transmissions.  If you try and join in--then it's a crime.

Now, nobody is going to go to the pen for 20 years for driving around and 
being a wanker, but if you did it to the wrong company or person, they 
could indeed make your life a bit more complicated than you had anticipated.




At 02:49 PM 6/27/02 -0700, Bowie J. Poag wrote:


>Justin,
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>It probably caused alot of blank stares because its an incredibly stupid
>idea to publically announce the fact that you're commiting a federal crime.
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>I know of about half a dozen places here in Tucson that publically broadcast
>unencrypted 802.11b traffic. I could describe where they are quite easilly.
>Businesses, peoples homes, you name it. Of these places, two are businesses
>that have a heavy amount of porno traffic after hours..presumably due to the
>owners of these businesses.  Another location dumps hundreds of people's
>usernames and passwords every day. If I went out and publically stated where
>these places were, i'd be smothered in lawsuits and likely visited by the
>police.
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>Wardriving is fun and educational, but its also illegal. Very illegal. By
>marking a sidewalk or a wall with instructions, you're essentially saying
>"Look, everybody! I'm an irresponsible idiot willing to make it easier for
>someone else commit a crime!"
>Claiming that you're doing it for the public's benefit is pure bullshit..
>Thats like saying that its okay to walk into peoples homes and steal their
>jewelry because their doors were unlocked and their jewelry was right there
>out in the open, and oh--you're not commiting a crime.. You're merely
>teaching them a lesson about security!
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>Mmhmm.
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>----- Original Message -----
>From: "Justin Zeigler" <jzeigler@zqc.com>
>To: "TFUG List" <tfug@tfug.org>
>Sent: Thursday, June 27, 2002 11:30 PM
>Subject: [Tfug] warchalking
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