[Tfug] OT: PHP Programming leads

[Joshua Zeidner]

  I've met Keith in real life.  He's a regular guy who lives in Arizona.  He
does in fact do PHP work.


  -jmz


On Wed, Apr 14, 2010 at 1:46 PM, Chris Niswander <
MOST.SENDERS.ARE._FILTERED.OUT_--FOR.MY.REAL.EMAIL.ADDRESS.check.my.website..tfug.rcvr.x6a3 at bitboost.com
> wrote:

>
> I was curious whether this was legitimate or not,
> so I did a small amount of digging:
>
> klsmith2020 at yahoo.com has the website http://wwww.netcodeman.com
> (and other websites, which I'll get to later.)
> He's had this website since at least late 2004.
>
> I did a Google search on [PHP programmer], and
> http://wwww.netcodeman.com was the #2 result (after Wikipedia.)
>
> Over 500 webpages link to http://wwww.netcodeman.com.
>
> Many are forum posts or other webpages that have comment sections
> at the bottom, where comments have been posted by Keith
> that link to his website(s).
> A smaller number are websites that seem to have been created
> by Keith Smith for marketing purposes.
>
> I originally *expected* that I would find a lot of websites created by
> Keith Smith *for various clients*, with little links at the bottoms of
> each website's pages, to Keith Smith's www.netcodeman.com website.
> I was disappointed that I *did not* find many websites created by Keith
> Smith for clients.  I did see a website created for a church.
>
> Most of the websites that appear to have been created by Keith Smith
> and link to www.netcodeman.com seem to be somewhat contrived websites
> that were created in an attempt to grab a domain name with some possible
> marketing value, show up in Google search for something,
> and get people to click on ads or to become leads to sell to some
> provider of a product or service such as car insurance. For example:
> www.choicearizona.com/LOTS OF PAGES WITH SIMILAR AND/OR
>                      SOMEWHAT CONTRIVED CONTENT, TRYING TO SELL
>                      CAR INSURANCE OR OTHER INSURANCE.
> www.keithsmithlaw.com :
>  No, Keith Smith doesn't run his own law firm;
>  he just wants you to find a lawyer through him.
>
> In summary, it appears that:
> 1. Keith Smith has been practicing "SEO" and "SEM" as a
>   genuine Internet marketer with some skill and actual success at that.
> 2. I think that as #2 in Google for [PHP programmer], with a website
>   that has a "Free No Obligation Quote" form and Contact form,
>   he must really get leads on PHP programming gigs.
> 3. I have no idea whether he really has hot PHP programming skills,
>   and whether more than two or three clients ever pay him or his
>   company to do PHP programming.  :-)
>   But I guess hanging out in places like TFUG, either he knows PHP or
>   he can probably find better PHP programmers than just whoever would
>   pay the most for the lead through Google AdWords.
>   Also, I would guess that his "Free No Obligation Quote" page
>   on www.netcodeman.com probably provides relatively high quality leads
>   with more information than a mere click on an ad.
> 4. Keith's offer looks sufficiently legit to me that I'm not sure
>   why Keith is selling this for only $60 / month to 4 people.
>
>
> keith smith wrote:
>
>> Dear PHP Programmers:
>>
>> Is business slow? Could you handle more programming business?
>>
>> My company has more PHP Programming leads than I can handle!  Every month
>> I receive 30 - 40  project leads that I am cannot work. I do not work any of
>> these leads.  Based on my experience, these programming jobs will pay an
>> average of $25 - $75 per hour, sometimes more.
>>
>> If there is 40 leads in a month and you pay $60.00 for the full month, you
>> are paying only $1.50 per lead.  If you were using Google's Pay-Per-Click
>> you might be paying $30.00 or more per lead.
>> No long term commitment.  $25 for the rest of this month and $60 a month
>> due on the 1st of each month thereafter to continue.
>>
>> Limited to 4 people.  First come first serve.  I have 2 vacancies.  All 4
>> get all the leads.
>>
>> Contact me off list if interested.
>>
>> ------------------------
>> Keith Smith
>>
>>
>>
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