[Tfug] Semi-off-topic...a good quote of mine made the AZ Star...

keith smith klsmith2020 at yahoo.com
Sun Sep 14 13:37:27 MST 2008


I support her right to speak out.  It is the manner in which she voiced herself that I have a problem with.


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Keith Smith



--- On Sun, 9/14/08, Matthew T. Eskes <meskes at gmail.com> wrote:
From: Matthew T. Eskes <meskes at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Tfug] Semi-off-topic...a good quote of mine made the AZ Star...
To: "'Tucson Free Unix Group'" <tfug at tfug.org>
Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 12:03 PM

She's also a county employee. Government employees are limited in their
rights. When I was in the Army I was limited in certain rights, such as my
1st amendment rights for example. This is common practice and her being a
"citizen" has nothing to the fact that she is first and foremost a
government right and it is her duty to protect the law of the land, no
matter what her position. Her speaking out against the very government for
whom she works proves that she lacks the faith in the said government.

-- The Founding Fathers struggled for the principle that man could and
should be trusted with his own destiny. Our current /domestic/ enemies,
against whom those Americans in uniform are sworn to defend, do not believe
in this principle, but we have again won a round in the endless fight
against them.
    
   -- Jeff Cooper on the assault weapons ban ending 

-----Original Message-----
From: tfug-bounces at tfug.org [mailto:tfug-bounces at tfug.org] On Behalf Of
Malcolm Schmerl
Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 11:42 AM
To: klsmith2020 at yahoo.com; Tucson Free Unix Group
Subject: Re: [Tfug] Semi-off-topic...a good quote of mine made the AZ
Star...

Isabel Garcia is a citizen. Her right to protest is protected by the 1st 
Amendment.

keith smith wrote:
> Huckelberry has refused to do anything about 
> Isabel Garcia who heads up his public defender  
> program.  She was at at book signing were 
> Joe Arpaio, Maricopa County Sheriff was signing 
> his book here is Tucson.
>
> Her group beat a pinata in Joe Arpaio's likeness 
> and once the head was severed Isabel Garcia picked 
> up the head and walked around displaying it.
>
> You will also notice the group contains what appears
> to be high school age children.
>
> Here is the youtube video.
>
> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tdKL4cSkBvY
>         
> I wrote Huckelberry a number of emails outlining several laws that 
> were violate.  He replied only with a question.  I also phoned his 
> office several times and was told I could not talk with him.  I also 
> wrote each County Supervisor an email.  They all replied that Isabel 
> Garcia works for Huckelberry.  My question to them was where is the 
> over sight?
>  
> http://www.tucsoncitizen.com/daily/breakingnews/96111.php
>
>
> Things have got to change!!
>
> ------------------------
> Keith Smith
>
>
>
>
> --- On *Sun, 9/14/08, Matthew T. Eskes /<meskes at gmail.com>/* wrote:
>
>     From: Matthew T. Eskes <meskes at gmail.com>
>     Subject: Re: [Tfug] Semi-off-topic...a good quote of mine made the
>     AZ Star...
>     To: "'Tucson Free Unix Group'" <tfug at tfug.org>
>     Date: Sunday, September 14, 2008, 1:16 AM
>
>     Jim, reading the comment that
>      Huckelberry had no intentions of firing Nelson
>     really enraged me. I have stated (not on list, of course) that
he's
needed
>     to go for years now. Honestly, I don't pity you for having to put
up
with
>     all the headaches that this election process is going to cause you.
Perhaps
>     it's time that we consider pushing to have Huckelberry removed
from
office.
>     Maybe that's the only thing that will make him realize that his
job is
to
>     listen to what the people want instead of what *he* wants.
>
>     I feel that he's been in office for way too long and starting a
long
time
>     ago, has lost touch with the constituency; a sure sign of bad
judgment. Then
>     again, Tucson has had a reputation of its' own which seems to
mirror
>     Huckleberry's poor decisions of judgment. Either way, I see this
year's
>     election as being surrounded by a gigantic black cloud of controversy.
I
>     really hope you and your associates are getting prepared for all of
>      the
>     allegations that are going to be flying come November.
>
>     Good luck and God's Speed, Jim.
>
>     Matt 
>
>     -- The Founding Fathers struggled for the principle that man could and
>     should be trusted with his own destiny. Our current /domestic/
enemies,
>     against whom those Americans in uniform are sworn to defend, do not
believe
>     in this principle, but we have again won a round in the endless fight
>     against them.
>         
>        -- Jeff Cooper on the assault weapons ban ending 
>
>     -----Original Message-----
>     From: tfug-bounces at tfug.org [mailto:tfug-bounces at tfug.org] On Behalf
Of Jim
>     March
>     Sent: Sunday, September 14, 2008 12:52 AM
>     To: Tucson Free Unix Group
>     Subject: [Tfug] Semi-off-topic...a good quote of mine made the AZ
Star...
>
>     http://www.azstarnet.com/metro/257363
>
>     I say "semi" OT because some of the best ideas in repairing
>     electronic
>     voting involve FOSS-based solutions...
>
>     Jim
>      March
>
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