Hey Gordon, you listening? A *nix question as I just had a truly sick thought and you were listed as a contributer of knowledge when I googled. What do you know about the Vax 4000-200? I had the idle thought of picking one up off Ebay, (just to show off) and run *nix on it. Looks like NetBSD may run on it???? Can you tell me what a good vs. bad TPS is for a Vax. And what's "Vup" mean? Adrian