[Tfug] Re: warchalking

[klsmith]

Tom Rini wrote:

>On Sun, Jun 30, 2002 at 10:11:46AM -0700, klsmith wrote:
>
>>Tom Rini wrote:
>>
>>>On Sat, Jun 29, 2002 at 11:43:27AM -0700, klsmith wrote:
>>>
>>>>I personally will never wardrive because I'm not up for the hassle of 
>>>>dealing with a system gone wrong (government).  However if I were to and 
>>>>was ever charged for doing no more than using available bandwidth, I 
>>>>would make Nick's argument.
>>>>
>>>>"...attempting to procure a lease, by definition, is ASKING for
>>>>authorization to access the network. DHCP OFFER is analogous to you
>>>>welcoming a hobo knocking at your door in for dinner."
>>>>
>>>That's a really bad argument since you're picking nits about how the
>>>technology works, not how the controlling entity set things up.  The
>>>intent (quite probably, unless they're offering free wireless
>>>connectivity to anyone walking buy) is that only authorized users would
>>>be attempting to connect in the first place.
>>>
>>>Technically the technology said 'sure, come on in!', but computers
>>>aren't the ones who legally are responsible for the policy.
>>>
>>>The fact is that unless you've got explicit permission for the legal
>>>entity behind/responsible for the connection, there's not really a
>>>difference between sitting in your car and connecting vs running a
>>>really long enet cable out of an open window.
>>>
>>Have you ever seen what goes on in a court room.  This would be an 
>>excellent argument and a compelling one at that.
>>
>
>No, I think what Jon said would be more likely.
>
>Seriously tho, just because the companies computer said 'Yes, please get
>on my network', who allowed you to ask that computer the question in the
>first place?  This isn't any different sitting in their lobby, seeing an
>enet jack, plugging in and running dhcp.  If they find out, they'll most
>certainly kick you out and could do alot more.
>
Maybe!  If I'm setting in the lobby and they have a HOT port there and I 
use it to check my mail, why would I not think a HOT port was placed 
there for my waiting convenience?

Maybe they are nice to the people who wait in their lobby.

Keith