[Tfug] Apple Mac OS X: tool of Godless Darwinists and Communist / TROLL ALERT?

Jordan Aberle jordan.aberle at gmail.com
Wed Jun 24 14:55:21 MST 2009


I'm really enjoying this thread, we should have more like this.  I just got
the entire series of "The Universe" produced by the History channel, it's
three seasons long.  They delve deep into the LHC as well as many other
subjects, It's considered to be the new Cosmos (Carl Sagan).
I highly recommend it:
http://www.imdb.com/title/tt1051155/

A believer of physical evidence and reasoned logic,
-Jordan

On Wed, Jun 24, 2009 at 2:12 PM, <Liz_Ravenwood at beaerospace.com> wrote:

>
> Hi Don,
>
> rational/irrational quibbling...  is it a question of semantics or
> ontology?
>
> I'm  really not very knowledgable about math.  I've only made it through
> 2nd quarter calculus.--  but baggage regarding our perceptions?
>
> It's more of question really, of wondering if we've gone down so far in our
> existing formulas like the value of a so-called cosmological constant, that
> our subsequent formulas, knowledge, and physics, although they work in a
> classical sense, will never ever ever come out right in a quantum sense.
> just wondering...
>
> and why take a valium if I'm in zen mode?  oh - maybe the folks around
> wouldn't want to hear my lovely voice!  ;-)
>
> Respectfully,
> Liz, Data Base Administrator,
> Methods Engineering
>
>
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> Hi, Liz,
>
> --- On Tue, 6/23/09, Liz_Ravenwood at beaerospace.com
> [snip]
>
> > and then I wonder how much is really
> > a product of our mathematics when our mathematics is
> > inately inadequte since reality is really irrational numbers
> > anyay, and how we decide to
> > frame it is based on the precision and scale of the numbers
> > we use to represent it.
>
> This is a good point (though I can quibble over rational/irrational,
> etc.)
>
> Unfortunately, I have forgotten more than I ever knew so I can't
> cite specifics but I seem to recall the concept of zero was a
> dramatic step forward in mathematical concepts.  And, moving to
> a "positional" (?) numbering system vs. something like Roman
> numerals made "higher math" much more likely to evolve.
>
> So, what baggage does our current math carry with it and what
> does it prevent us from seeing more clearly?
>
> > If mathematics can yield such far off results based on 4 decimal
> > positions out, then what can a full pi really do?
> > Gosh, going in to zen mode - yet again.
> >
> > I should sing now...  "It's zen again..."
>
> Yikes!  Give that girl some valium...  ;-)
>
>
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