[Tfug] PDA non-usage

Jude Nelson judecn at gmail.com
Sat Feb 2 18:33:46 MST 2008


I don't use my PDA for PIM stuff--a pad of paper is by far the best
way to record that (or writing it on your hand).  Instead, I use my
PDA like it's a pocket-sized UMPC--for web surfing and e-mail checking
and on-the-fly coding and mindless entertainment and occasionally
ssh-ing into one of the University's servers.  But then again, my
Zaurus C1000 isn't exactly one's idea of a PDA either :)

On 2/2/08, Jeffry Johnston <tfug at kidsquid.com> wrote:
> I didn't notice a problem.. gmail seems to take care of it.. but even
> pine will process HTML.  Are you telnetting to the mail server and
> reading your mail that way? :P
>
> Jeff
>
>
> On Feb 2, 2008 4:22 PM, johngalt1 <johngalt1 at uswest.net> wrote:
> > What's the deal with posting in HTML?
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "David Cowell" <davidwcowell>
> > To: "Tucson Free Unix Group" <tfug at tfug.org>
> > Sent: Saturday, February 02, 2008 2:36 PM
> > Subject: [Tfug] PDA non-usage
> >
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> > The biggest obstacle to PDA usage is that we
> > <B><I>already</I></B> easily accomplish most of the tasks
> > that we would like to move to a PDA.<BR>
> > <BR>
> > For example, if someone gives you their telephone number,
> > you jot it on a piece of paper... if you're me, you don't
> > put a name on it, either. So why on earth would you fiddle
> > around pulling a PDA out and eentsy-weentsy typing
> > everything in (including a name), for something you may
> > never need again? Five seconds versus 20-30 seconds.<BR>
> > <BR>
> > On top of this, remember that if you have a duplicate system
> > of information storage and retrieval you will have a harder
> > time retrieving any one bit of information if that
> > information is filed in randomly between systems. (Say
> > somewhere between 1.4 and 2.0 times the searching time of
> > the more efficient system: "Let's see... did I have my
> > PDA with me at that moment?")<BR>
> > <BR>
> > Efficiency would require abandoning one method or the other.
> > Otherwise, <I>reduced</I> efficiency will result, at least
> > in the short run.<BR>
> > <BR>
> > So guess which method most of us abandon? The one that
> > requires additional effort at the present moment.<BR>
> > <BR>
> > The way I see it, the only people who would change to a PDA
> > are either <B>highly</B> motivated to do so (I know but one
> > person who has done so, and he is a self-made
> > multi-millionaire) or are so young that the change in
> > procedure would cause minimal relearning.<BR>
> > <BR>
> > This, incidentally, is why "old fogies" find it
> > hard to adapt to new technologies. They have become so adept
> > at the older way that the loss of time in learning the new
> > way of doing something that they already do quite acceptably
> > (at least by their own standards) is something they view as
> > wasted time. (Most of us are not terribly interested in
> > <I>future</I> savings of time. Additionally, the older we
> > get, the more times we have gotten huckstered by promises of
> > time savings that just didn't pan out.)<BR>
> > <BR>
> > So, I guess you could say that you're an old fogey. <IMG
> > SRC="cid:1201987917.26299.21.camel at adam-desktop"
> > ALIGN="middle" ALT=":)" BORDER="0"> Like most of us.<BR>
> > <BR>
> > <BLOCKQUOTE TYPE=CITE>
> >     <BLOCKQUOTE>
> >         <TT>Hi, Tim,</TT><BR>
> >         <BR>
> >         <TT>--- Tim Ottinger <<A
> > HREF="mailto:tottinge at gmail.com">tottinge at gmail.com</A>>
> > wrote:</TT><BR>
> >         <BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> > One reason that
> > I love using PDA's as examples is</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> I</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> >
> > have</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> > yet to come up
> > with a good understanding of why</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">>
> > *they*</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> > are so poorly
> > accepted (the *concept* sounds</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> >
> > wonderful;</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> > yet I haven't
> > met anyone who continues to use</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">>
> > his/her</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> > PDA after a few
> > months with any regularity  :< )</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">>  
> > </FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> Great point.  I
> > have had three, not counting the</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> PDA phone.  I
> > only use the media player, phone</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> numbers, and the
> > alarm feature.  They're just</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <TT><FONT COLOR="#342861">> not really
> > convenient.</FONT></TT><BR>
> >         <BR>
> >         <TT>Yes, but *why* (not)??  :<  The
> > idea seems *perfect*;</TT><BR>
> >         <TT>keeping track of all this *cruft* that is just
> > not</TT><BR>
> >         <TT>worth remembering (appointments, phone
> > numbers,</TT><BR>
> >         <TT>addresses, etc.) -- yet is
> > "inconvenient" to</TT><BR>
> >         <TT>*forget*!</TT><BR>
> >         <BR>
> >         <TT>I've tried playing with several and find that
> > I</TT><BR>
> >         <TT>have to force myself to carry it -- and only
> > at</TT><BR>
> >         <TT>certain times (e.g., while I do my daily walk
> > I</TT><BR>
> >         <TT>carry one to log my time exercising and busy
> > my</TT><BR>
> >         <TT>mind -- Soduko -- while walking).  I.e. I
> > am</TT><BR>
> >         <TT>not *compelled* to carry it.</TT><BR>
> >         <BR>
> >         <TT>I.e., it is "entertainment" for me
> > just like</TT><BR>
> >         <TT>the mp3 is for you.</TT><BR>
> >         <BR>
> >     </BLOCKQUOTE>
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