[Tfug] DynDNS howto

Jeremy D Rogers jdrogers at optics.arizona.edu
Mon Aug 27 05:43:18 MST 2007


On 8/27/07, christopher floess <skeptikos at gmail.com> wrote:
> Well Andrew is able to get the web interface to his modem
> trhough on cox service. Who else has cox and can configure
> their modem through a web interface?

DSL is different from Cable. For that matter, different modems are
different. As Matt already mentioned, cable is
one-company-provides-connection-and-isp while with DSL it is separate.
When I had cable, the cable modem I had was dumb, there was no web
config. The cable modem simply connected to the cable side and asked
for an IP and then served up dhcp on the other side passing everything
along. The modem itself was not filtering anything and forwarded all
ports (actually I'm not sure it is technically port forwarding since
it was actually passing the IP address on to to the local side and not
actually acting like a router).

With my DSL, the modem acts like a router and has a web configuration
(which by the way, on mine is accessible via the external web, but
requires you type in some code from the back of the modem to access).
So Christopher, I would not expect your cable modem to act like the
DSL modem. It may be that my DSL modem is just newer and has more
features than my cable modem did, but I suspect that the extra config
is needed for DSL precisely because of the more complex nature of DSL
what with all the third party ISP stuff. In any case, my experience
with DSL has been that the modem AND the router both need to be told
to forward the ports.
JDR


> On 8/26/07, Matt  Jacob <matt.jacob at gmail.com> wrote:
> > Cable is different. Cox owns the lines, they deliver the signal to
> > your modem, and everything flows through them. They run the show.
> >
> > With DSL, you can have one company delivering the signal to your house
> > (e.g. Qwest) and another company providing Internet services (e.g.
> > MSN). I believe it has something to do with the FCC regulation of the
> > telephone industry. Or maybe not. I really don't know why it is how it
> > is, but there's my educated guess.
> >
> > Matt
> >
> > On 8/26/07, christopher floess <skeptikos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > On 8/26/07, Predrag Punosevac <punosevac72 at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > I don't know if this would help you but my IP provider is MSN. The
> > > > Quest is just providing the physical connection.
> > >
> > > How did you find out about this info? Because I always just see
> > > adds for high-speed internet offered by Qwest (as well as cox)
> > > but no mention of a third party provider.
> > >
> > > > I think that the same is true with Cox and that your actual internet
> > > > provider is somebody else. I would not be surprised to learn that it
> > > > is MSN as well.
> > >
> > > I find it pretty bothersome that I could take up
> > > cox on their offer of high-speed internet with out knowing that I'm
> > > also establishing a agreement with a third party.
> > >
> > > I guess I just need to learn how to read my cox bill
> > >
> > > >
> > > > On 8/26/07, christopher floess <skeptikos at gmail.com> wrote:
> > > > > > Sorry, this was a general statement.  Apparently some ISP's do not want
> > > > > > you to run server applications and block certain ports.
> > > > > >
> > > > > > I was saying that Qwest does not block ports, at least if you are using
> > > > > > one of their partner ISP's that do not restrict your usage.
> > > > >
> > > > > Funny, I thought Qwest was the ISP. I guess they may have rights
> > > > > to the phone line, and just direct the traffic to the ISP, who takes
> > > > > care of things like dns, ip addresses, port blocking, etc. I think
> > > > > the person on the list who works for simply bits might best be
> > > > > able to clear this up. I'd still be interested who my isp is, if cox
> > > > > is just the guy whose line I connect to. Maybe they run both
> > > > > services
> > > > >
> > > > > >
> > > > > > Naturally you have to configure the DSL router to forward the
> > > > > > appropriate ports to your internal network.
> > > > > >
> > > > >
> > > > > Again, maybe cox runs both services. I don't know if you were
> > > > > following me and Predrag's discussion, but I wasn't able to log
> > > > > in to my modem the way he did.
> > > > >
> > > > > FWIW, my modem is a terayon tj715x, if you know how to log
> > > > > into it and configure it.
> > > > >
> > > > >
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