[Tfug] Just starting - need help

Joe Blais joe.blais at pti-instruments.com
Tue Oct 3 09:32:01 MST 2006


QNX --  :-)
I worked with that way back when -- It was great --- I was trying to get
that for this project --but bosses like cheap :-(
The devices we make need some degree of real-timedness. XP worked
sufficiently fast, with a 1gig processor, so we figured we could live with
Linux on a small card.
The problem with winders is the forced upgrades to bigger and faster
processors means upgrading devices we build..... calling home... XP embedded
is a fallback.



-----Original Message-----
From: tfug-bounces at tfug.org [mailto:tfug-bounces at tfug.org]On Behalf Of
Bexley Hall
Sent: Monday, October 02, 2006 6:06 PM
To: Tucson Free Unix Group
Subject: Re: [Tfug] Just starting - need help



--- Joe Blais <joe.blais at pti-instruments.com> wrote:

> Because we want a small embedded type of thing, and
> performance, I was

But have you looked at what *type* of performance
you need?  Are you just looking for a user-interface
that "feels" responsive?  Do you have real-time
constraints to address (HRT vs. SRT)?  Or, do you
have hardware assist for those tyes of issues?

> looking into Xlib, but got a real small feeling when
> looking at the
> documentation on the XFree86 site, way over my head,
> or I just didn't click on the right "examples" link.

Xlib isn't for the feint of heart.

> we selected pc/104 for cost / size / seemed like the
> thing to do at the
> time.  I could go with a bigger cpu, throw in a hard
> drive, say heck with
> the cost, and hack out a solution in winders xp,
> but..... for now that's a fallback.

You should take a look at Inferno.  I think you will
find it a lot less troublesome than Linux + X + ...
You can probably hack together a dog-and-pony really
quickly and decide if it "fits" before investing a
lot of time in another solution.

If you are wed to Linux for some reason, you can also
look at Jaluna-2.  You can also get some real-time
hooks with this approach (as long as you don't move
RT tasks to the Linux userland).

If you have deeper pockets, QNX is also a great
platform (I think Inferno & Jaluna licenses are
much less expensive -- Jaluna-1 is "free").

(I design embedded systems... "Been there, done that,
got the T-shirt to prove it!"  :> )

HTH,
--don

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