[Tfug] TFUG Archive search

[Ellen K. Martin]

----- Original Message -----
From: "Jon" <bigj at tfug.org>
To: "Tucson Free Unix Group" <tfug at tfug.org>
Sent: Thursday, November 13, 2003 11:46 AM
Subject: Re: [Tfug] TFUG Archive search


> I'll take a look at MhonArc. ht://dig sounds interesting also.
Someone
> mentioned using mail2news, which mailman does. Now I had spoken
to Jim,
> who as far as I know is no longer on the list, a few months
back and he
> mentioned doing the same thing.

If you'd like to see an example of how a Mailman list is being
archived with MhonArc, check out:
http://fishcart.org/archives/index.php.  The directory is
password protected to keep the spammers out, but the username and
password (speak/friend) are given in the popup window where the
user gets prompted to log in.

> I question is how would this work? Here is my understanding of
how it
> works. Someone posts to the list using the list address. It
get's
> distributed to the list and to the news server. Now someone is
viewing the
> newgroup and they want to reply to someone. Is it going to get
distributed
> to the mailing list also and not just the news group?

The MHonArc website says "MHonArc is a Perl mail-to-HTML
converter. MHonArc provides HTML mail archiving with index, mail
thread linking, etc; plus other capabilities including support
for MIME and powerful user customization features."

Check out http://www.oac.uci.edu/indiv/ehood/mhonarc.html for
more info.

> I see there is a setting for this in mailman to allow people to
reply
> to teh news group AND the list but w/o ever using it before
> I'm unsure of it's actual behavior.
>
> Jon
>
>
> On Thu, 13 Nov 2003, Sam Hart wrote:
>
> > Yes, MHonArc is an excellent replacement for Pipermail. One
of these days,
> > when I have time, I plan to replace Pipermail on tux4kids.net
with it.
> >
> > The one big argument against Pipermail is that it's largely
unmaintained,
> > and there are a number of /really/ glaring bugs in it. The
one that keeps
> > biting us at t4k.net is the qrunner race condition bug (I
mention it here:
> >
http://tux4kids.net/pipermail/t4k-admin/2003-January/000266.html
> > but there are better descriptions of it I'm sure).
> >
> > This bug drives delivery down to a crawl and requires the
occassional
> > manual clearing of the queue (granted, Jon may have been
lucky enough to
> > never have to deal with it ;-)
> >
> > * On 03-11-13, Nick Lopez wrote:
> >
> > > On Wed, Nov 12, 2003 at 04:30:05PM -0700, Jon wrote:
> > > > I don't know a way to do it other than downloading the
raw archive. This
> > > > brings up another related question. Does anyone know of a
better way to
> > > > archive the list instead of using Mailman's pipermail? It
would be nice to
> > > > be able to easily search the archive.
> > >
> > >   From a "wading through archives found through google"
perspective I find
> > > mhonarc archives tend to be much easier to deal with.  The
default config is
> > > simple and effective and even useful(shock).  Much better
than pipermail and
> > > MARC(.theaimsgroup.net) and lightyears ahead of that
steaming pile of crap
> > > sourceforget uses.
> > >
> > >   Of course, and NNTP gateway couldn't hurt either, or
maybe I should try to
> > > get gname.org to carry it.  Pan beats any web archive, and
I assume thats
> > > true for any usenet reader.
> > >
> > >   - Nick Lopez
> > >     spamtrap at glowingmonkey.org
> > >
> > >   -- Randomly selected signature --
> > > Panic now, beat the rush!
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> > >
> >
> > --
> > Sam Hart
> > University/Work addr. <hart at physics.arizona.edu>
> > Personal addr. <criswell at geekcomix.com>
> > Alternative <criswell at tux4kids.net>
> > end
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